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. europe right now is the safe haven. there's no negative news. by any means, they are not done with all that's going on over there. everything is focused here on the u.s. and the fiscal cliff, and until that is resolved, if it gets resolved, the traders are pulling back, volatility's high, and there's going to be very thin volume in the markets. it's not going to take much to get gold and silver back up. >> well, back to cindy quickly. if we have a deal, is it bullish for oil? she's already gone. i'll ask doreen, you're with us, aren't you? >> i am. volume, today, by the way, 37% below the three month average. could lead to some volatility, but we have not seen that, have we? >> we have not, but vix is up at 19, a little bit higher. the hope is to get more volume here, otherwise, you know, the fiscal cliff is killing everything. everything. these guys don't get it in washington. i don't know why. i hope they come to their senses soon. ashley: nobody knows why, but i'm tired of saying "fiscal cliff," i know that. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> and cindy who ran off. t
, but a change. you were bullish in the u.s. saying i'm going to europe and other areas. why? >> well, maybe it's controversial when you look at the headlines in europe and asia and elsewhere in the world, but our thesis is predicated primarily on what we call price matters, which is essentially evaluations so when you look at the u.s. markets, and in our opinion, u.s. markets are still relatively attractively valued because they are, on our models, 20% below long term return trend sot force of reversion works in your favor, but if you look at efa, it's further below the long term trend, 35%-40% below the long term trend, and history coral lates to strong adjusted returns over the next decade. you know, that's the long term view op places like europe and asia. the shorter term view is that our tool set for tactical moves is don't fight the fed or the trend, be aware of the crowded extremes, and like in the u.s. where the fed is on a risk market side, that's true in the ecb, a huge change. the change in the ecb leadership and the embracing of american style qe is a big reason why we went from st
. not for those two reasons . we don't have too much vacation or little. we do it just right. europe had work like we did. you want lopping beer vacation you can have a stagnant economy like europe. we rise taxes we'll havave loer vacation but fewer jobbings. >> you are right. we don't want to be like the french. and people here in the united states and government union. and i was on vacation and check my blackberry and read a rick unger e-mail while on vacation. >> you are never on vacation. >> you work it anyway. nine out of the 10 are checking their work phones. any time to rejuvenate and comeack ragged. >> we need that vacation time to work better. >> when you say economy you arealking about gdp. good or ill it is major transaction. have everyone never talk a day off and work 60 hours a week. steve is protesting that. >> there is it a correlation between vacation time and increased productity. a 2010tudy show that americans fe refreshed and better about their jobs coming back it is important to take eaks throughout the work die. >> center to tell you, i don't think i had a year where i used up
think europe is behind us. unemployment is finding its footing. the housing market is finding its footing. so i think generally we have got clear sailing for 2013. i don't think the market is going to skyrocket. i just don't think we're going to see the wild swings that we have seen the last couple of years. david: david, let me challenge you on that a little bit. tim, we will get to you in a second. you say most of the bad news is behind us, but what if we don't have a deal, and that's still a possibility, we go off the fiscal cliff and as most economists think, we go into a recession. i mean a recession is not priced into this market, is it? >> i think so. david: really? hold on a second, the last time we had a recession the dow went down. >> i don't think there's really many things they can do in congress to avoid a very slow growth economy. whatever they do, it is not going to cause the economy to grow like crazy. i don't think the market is pricing any any kind of major reversal. david: let me be precise here. you are saying specifically that if we go into a recession, a rece
the actual global land scape is looking like from europe to here in the u.s.? >> well, i just spent two weeks in europe, and i don't think things are as bad in europe as a lot of people do. liz: why not? >> the politicians, the bankers and the bureaucrats are the same in europe as they are here. they don't want to lose their jobs, and they're going to continue to paper over this and try to buy time just like we did in our fiasco in '07, '08 and '09. david: david, on the other hand, some people would say what they're doing is stunting growth, raising tax rates, something that may stunt our growth as well. you say that this bull market is overbought right now. it's about to end. why and how sharp a correction are you expecting? >> well, we believe that the high of 12 weeks ago was probably the high for the whole recovery cycle the that started in march of '09. remember that the u.s. stock market was the only market in the world that made a new high this year. we were the best looking house on a very bad looking street. and we believe that the market is overvalued perhaps 20-30%, but we also bel
deadlocked on how to resolve this crisis. noticed it, europe and arab nations are calling on a side to step down, loo but russia, chind iran continue to back assab. it states may well lose his status as the world's sole superpower by 2030. according to new report from the nationalst intelligence council. the united states to the obama intelligence rports suggestt wo will be first among equals as asia set to surpass north america and europe combined in terms of global power. joining us now to talk about implications for the foreign policy and wha in what is happen the middle east, john negroponte, the first director of national intelligence appointed by george w. bush serving five times as an investor and in his distinguished career in intelligence and diplomacy. great to have you with us. >> thank you. lou: let's start with the middle east. president morsi, ordering the military to arrest civilians. what is your reaction? >> i just think it is administration of the precariousness of the situation in egypt, but that situation is critical. we can't afford to see egypt go over some kind of a b
there of in europe. mario monti is stepping down as prime minister of italy. he lost support of the people. he was out in front of italy's debt crisis last year and he lowered the bar in cost. he is a smart guy. he obviously does not want to stay there. investors took heart from the latest data out of china. growth is accelerating. no more that owning our process here. almost 10%. beating analyst estimates. copper moved higher. it is an industrial metal. money flowing into stocks. minors like numa mining. then, of course, the announcement that they would be taking a big acquisition. today, it is up more than a percent. cliff natural of about 5%. we should not forget mcdonald's. better same-store sales than expected. coming up in just a few minutes. cash is king at ethan allen peered the furniture retailer throwing a lot more cash at shareholders. they are announcing a one-time payout this month alone. we will get the inside story from ethan allen chairman and ceo farooq kathwari. you have to hear about his plans for china. international expansion is a huge priority. the chinese may like that p
morning. all right. coming up new at 10, germany's chancellor angela merkel says europe will have to work very hard to it maintain its current standard of living. at the top of the hour, find out what she's saying about welfare and here is another development from overseas. we brought you the story last week, french actor gerard depardu, he is leaving home, leaving france because of higher taxes and handed in his passport. now, the french prime minister has some choice words for mr. depardu. he's obviously in the happy with him and find out exactly what he said at ten o'clock eastern time this morning. time is money. 30 seconds, here is what else we've got for you, an in japan, again, a landslide win, so, what's the new prime minister going to do about the world's worst debt problem? print more money and stimulate more, too. build more infrastructure. will that work? we have our own resident japan expert. question, is jeff immelt's cozy relationship with the president costing general electric shareholders money? we will be discussing it. and i lost on friday when i questioned "the washing
will benefit and have a positive economic gai if we export lng offshore to europe, and or asia and to other countries that need our gas. melissa: we have so much natural gas unlocked as a result of fracking, the problem is, intellectually, emotionally we can never wrap our heads on exporting energy. we're sure we have to keep it all for fraaking,ç problem isç intellectually wrap our heads aroundzv exporting energy. weypúre sure to keep itç all for ourselves.ç do you think the president andç washington in general cansget over that hurdle.ç >> it is a great pointç, what you're describeç something protectionism.zvçmyv it could be a cake and eat it too scenario. within eight years or now seven years as we turn into the new 2013 year it could be $50 billion economic impact to this country. so we're tripping over dollars to try to save pennies. weemight be able to impact the ecomy here. melissa: i know but, you know, there is so much of the country, there are so many environmentalists so many people on the left who hate generating energy. they barely wt us t generate enough en
states, 7% china, 5% india, negative one in europe. in that environment you want to own a portfolio of multinational companies with dividends, global exposure, it will provide as good of a return as anything else when you have bonds and cash paying so low. as long as you understand you're in the seven, 8% environment, portfolio stocks should be part of that. david: let's talk to a guy that says full speed ahead torpedoes. he thinks it will be better than this year was. saying people are confusing pickups for heart attacks in today's market to all these problems are going to seem like nothing when we come to the big gains of next year. you really think that will bear out, and how do you invest with that kinddof optimistic strategy? >> first of all what we have seen with investor sentiment is contradictory to what we've seen with consumer sentiment and business sentiment. when you see negative investor sentiment is not just in the retail side but also the institutional side creating a great potential opportunity for performance. secondly if you take a look at kicking the can down the
't harm the patient. right now this economy is getting weak. we've seen higher taxes have done in europe and southern europe. france and germany about going into recession. japan is already in recession. why apply the poison here. you don't put it on taxes on the economy and why put poison in the patient. i don't get it. >> i'm not for tax hikes or anything, but if you kick the can voters are never going to be ready to reform or pay for entitlement reform. don't do entitlement reform. it took two years for reagan to do entitlement reform. sell by date is long past due on these measures to fix fiscal problems. the problem is we're in economic era of falling expectations and that has to stop. >> if we kick the can for six months that gets us to midterm elections? >> yeah, but the flip side of the argument you can pass a lot of bad bills. nancy pelosi, let's pass the healthcare bill so we can see what is in it. the big thing that we need to concentrate on is getting back to 3% growth. this 2% growth, all of our fiscal problems are going to get worse. we only have a prayer of supplying more
taxes have done in europe and southern europe. france and germany about going into recession. japan is already in recession. why apply the poison here. you don't put it on taxes on the economy and why put poison in the patient. i don't get it. >> i'm not for tax hikes or anything, but if you kick the can voters are never going to be ready to reform or pay for entitlement reform. don't do entitlement reform. it took two years for reagan to do entitlement reform. sell by date is long past due on these measures to fix fiscal problems. the problem is we're in economic era of falling expectations and that has to stop. >> if we kick the can for six months that gets us to midterm elections? >> yeah, but the flip side of the argument you can pass a lot of bad bills. nancy pelosi, let's pass the healthcare bill so we can see what is in it. the big thing that we need to concentrate on is getting back to 3% growth. this 2% growth, all of our fiscal problems are going to get worse. we only have a prayer of supplying more jobs, bringing down unemployment and braying down the deficit if we have 3
. the dollar has been lower. they have talked about the gains that we have been seeing over in europe. the euro top 50. that is very interesting, as well. this is the environment. it bodes very well. another winning day here on wall street. drug stocks, bank stocks doing well. the vix, the fear index, is to the downside. let's take a look at urban outfitters. taking a look at their quarterly sales. they are looking better than expected. under their umbrella is a name brand that a lot of the teenagers know very well. they had a good block friday. urban outfitters is up over two dollars. back to you. connell: as we get close to this fiscal cliff, both sides agreeing to get serious. we have heard the house speaker will update us on the talks within that hour from house floor. we will hear what speaker banner has to say. joining us right now are to congressman. would you vote if there was an agreement? >> i think it will be a balanced plan that will increase revenues by raising the rates on upper income families, but, at the same time, agreeing to substantial cuts. connell: the reason i started by
losing month in nine years for mcdonald's, but they're doing well for breakfast and in europe. lori: thank you as always. melissa: president obama had to try to seeking more support for the fiscal cliff plan. peter barnes is here with the latest. >> just over an hour they will speak at a diesel engine plant persoextending tax cuts for fedl tax workers. keeping up the pressure on republicans to cave on taxes after the president and speaker john boehner met at the white house yesterday in a spokesperson said discussions with the white house are taking place, but we have no details to share about the substance of those conversations. they say perhaps the best strategy for them is to accept some higher tax rate the president is demanding, get that off the table and combat entitlement reform early next year the president can work for increasing the debt ceiling. republicans will have a little bit more leverage. speak a lot of people putting forward a theory, and i think it has merit for you give the president to 2% increass he is talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, so there i
for 2012, up the russell 2000 up 12 percentage points, the s&p up 31, -- s&p up 11. but it's europe, europe actually ended up looking pretty darn good. germany up 30%. i mean, i look at that, and i say all of the fear that was out there including the euro stocks, 600 did unbelievably beautifully. and you say, my goodness, if you went toward the worst, most fearsome place, europe, you would have done way better than here in the u.s.. >> yeah, absolutely. well, it's like everything that happens in nature as well as the markets and the equity markets. when things get stretched too far one way, they will come back to a happy medium. we saw that in the equity markets this year. they were the best performing asset classes of all the places you could put your money, and it's not without knowing what's going on when you had unprecedented types of money flows coming from central banks around the globe, that money had to go somewhere. the u.s. market has performed very well. by the time we get done today, especially on the fiscal cliff talks, we're going to be up about 14% in the s&p 500. the leaders
america will benefit and have a positive economic gain if we export lng offshore to europe, and or asia and to other countries that need our gas. melissa: we have so much natural gas unlocked as a result of fracking, the problem is, intellectually, emotionally we can never wrap our heads on exporting energy. we're sure we have to keep it all for ourselves. do you think we can get over the hurdle, and that the president and washington in general can get over that hurdle? >> that is a great point, melissa. what you're describe something protectionism. you're right, america has a history of wanting to protect our assets and i think that's great but i think the scenario we're looking at now is unprecedented. america has so much natural gas i think we can fuel our transportation, power generation and domestic energy needs and actually export the surplus. it could be a cake and eat it too scenario. within eight years or now seven years as we turn into the new 2013 year it could be $50 billion economic impact to this country. so we're tripping over dollars to try to save pennies. weemight be a
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to happen in europe about the future whether their taxes are going to go aboard not. the problem is if you are holding on to your cash because darrell issa fear you are losing money. is that -- can you get that message out? is there a way to address the people who are so fearful, who don't want to risk a lot of their money but to recognize it just to leave it stand is not helping them at all. >> i appreciate your question. this gets to the heart of the question. people getting so focus on the fiscal cliff that they are missing the big picture. the big picture we are delivered in one way or the other when you think of things in three frameworks the the supergood growth middle and growth dealing with fiscal the leveraging in a small amount and the downside of the fiscal cliff. the first category is not something we can really obtain. the other two are the more likely categories and they are the way to invest in those areas and the portfolio of getting returned in those areas -- [talking over each other] liz: they fan your portfolio. >> they need to give away the more distant up side. don't b
't know about double-digit earnings growth, but credit in europe, and a miracle in japan. it is incredible. earnings are starting to rebound because nominal gdp is increasing and the other thing about volatility, volatility is going lower making what could have been more tight, more stability going into next year. all of these things, they will have a great year as far as price concern. liz: we showed the s&p for the year up about 16% year-over-year. the nasdaq 17%, these are beautiful performances, can they continue through 2013? >> i got asked that question a lot. people say the market is up, they are expensive, that is not necessarily so. the market is up because the consumer confidence and spending and earnings are great and the stock market made up of individual stocks that represent corporate earnings. as i look out into 2013, i see a bunch of tailwind called the energy sector, the housing sector getting a lot better. i agree capital spending and manufacturing is making a renaissance in the u.s. and all that would achieve market make for good earnings. david: i brought it up with our
. secondly the steel making coal which is used in europe brazil and in asia and we are one of the top three exporters of that coal in the world, and as the recovery in steel production increases in asia and in europe and latin america, that should be better for demand for that coal and hopefully pricing and really benefits most of the coal companies. ashley: steel prices firming as well. >> it seems that way, yes. ashley: the epa has been tough on the coal industry. >> you have said it, yeah. ashley: does that have an impact? >> it has. you know, certainly the equities were discounting a romney victory back in november. got hit pretty hard afterwards. now the stocks are back to where it was prior to the election. in my view, there's not much more major harm that the epa and other regulation can do to the coal industry. but certainly as the economy dictates demand, electricity generation and more confidence, that will be more important than say the epa. the epa has done their damage for the most part. you can never say never but i think most of the negative news is behind coal for the epa. a
reports on in europe and their work rules. from london, what do they get that we don't? >> european workers have the right to and protection of gainful unemployment. the minimum guaranteed staycation is 20 days paid not including weekend, additional time off , holidays. at france it starts at 25 per good european court of justice added on another to give a workers the right to to a vacation to over or give back. >> for instance it used the for two weeks for your christmas holiday and use brain drain gold and the last eight-- you are laid up that means they automatically go into your sickly youth then you could have the vacation do over to make up for those days that you weren't that sec or hurt. john: if you say i have they cold? they havto give you that back? >> if it is dead doctor's note to to say she got the sniffles so she will need another seven days of paid vacation. john: italy first. if you start a business and keep it small, up that 10 workers you have some flexibility but number 11 1/2 to have the self assessment outlying every possible health and safety hazard? >> yes. w
revenues are weak thanks in large part to europe. >> everybody is keeping an eye on housing. hopefully it will start. it pays a nice dev did i understand. >> it is it pricey and strauled higher than it has been.thanks for watching. keep it right here. cherul casony is next. houp this can solve this. all out frenzy as millions race to play the powerball lottery and pump millions to several state governments and now someone is calling to create a nation lottery to pay down the debt. if washington is not coming up with new ideas why not debate it i am cheryl casone and welcome to cash in . we have johnathon and tacey and john . jill joining us. wayne we'll start with you. is it time for a national lottery to pay down the federal debt same time. >> a question why not. if it works with the state governments. why not the federal government and me it a big and huge one and any little niche that you can knock down the deficit is good. >> okay, but john, what happens to the states. we are finding out that california is signing up for powerball because of the revenues that they get. i
's mentioning that the feds started a two-day meeting here. that's not a big issue. europe, though, are we seeing signs of stress again with the concerns about leadership in italy, and problems in greece, and should we pay attention to that than the fiscal cliff discussions? >> well, you know, right now, doesn't seem like the market is paying attention to that right now. it reminds me a lot of september, before the election, when the s&p's rallied. everything was con taped. we were worried about central bank, liquidity, numbers okayed here, heating up in china. people thought europe was contained, and it feels that way now. people looking past the headlines whether it's the fiscal cliff or europe. i mean, there's a lot of doom day sayers out there, and it makes sense, but it seems like everything right now is contained, and the trade is up to the upside. david: right. liz mentioned the fed decision coming up, should be hearing about it tomorrow. what's the market expecting from the fed? in what way will they be excited or disappointed? >> well, i think the market, if you look at the option
. if they do keep doing it -- that helps. the businesses grew almost 100% in europe. the stock breaks out at 57. lori: we will take it. charles: relish is on me. i am taking it one step at a time. it is my third job. [talking over each other] charles: i have to make money on the side. did you see the christmas list? lori: let's do stocks based on your wife's christmas list. [ laughter ] charles: you got it. lori: let's check the markets. it has been 15 minutes since we last checked in with lauren. >> fedex shares are doing well today. they are up by just under 3%. if you took out the impact of hurricane sandy that hit in late october, fedex would have reported earnings better than expected. that would be the good news. they are keeping an outlook for the full year and also their expectations for overall u.s. economic growth. what is interesting about fedex is there air expression, they're more expensive way to ship things. if you wanted to use fedex ground, monday was the deadline. tomorrow is the deadline for ups regular ground shipping if you want those gifts in time for christmas. melissa: i
europe. we have not had a lot of problees. seems like the greeks are kind to getting things. >> the last few days, europe markets have been pretty strong. as you said, a sleeping giant. cheryl: i do not want to see anything change. it has been nice. gentlemen, thank you. i appreciate it. great floor show today. uncertainty seems to be the norm in washington these days. last year you have the debt ceiling convey. congress had trouble putting together a deal. now the u.s. may be heading for the fiscal cliff. what does that mean for you and your investments? we have the jobs report today for a brief moment. we weren't worried about the fiscal cliff. now, we are back. what do you make of it? >> the jobs report was okay. there are some signs of very modest improvement in jobs. the good news is we have not really lost momentum and i will put that in the victory column. from a very short-term perspective, it is the fiscal cliff that is on everyone's mind. consumer sentiment is starting to decline. that suggested everyone seems to be focused on the fiscal cliff. when you are focused on uncertain
will happen appropriately in d.c. or let's not ignore europe. there are still had lines that could come, that ariane hurt our investments, nothing that a company on might own has anything to do with that. >> we were at 1119 with the s&p downgraded the united states on the s&p 500, 1119 and we are up 300 points and s&p earnings estimates are down $12 or $13. the market will always climb a wall of worry and we have been bullish expecting at 3 rating of equities. if you have low inflation and cash flows in the future worth a lot more so there's room to expand at 2% inflation, we have said all along the greatest risk was deflationary and avoidance of deflationary would lift these trades i am talking about. liz: good to see. going for 1600 next year on the s&p, see you next time and see if that comes through. working hard with the phones ringing, closing bell in 16 minutes. if everyone is wrapped up in that fiscal clipped drama is it for perfect time for you to invest abroad? oppenheimer international growth fund upward of 22% year to date. you have the guy running it. robert dump fee. liz:
to ship it from the gulf coast up to new york. you can actually ship it overseas to west africa or europe for probably a fraction of that. so even though the northeast is a little bit tight on gasoline, it costs so much to ship in u.s. vessels right now that some of the gasoline that might ordinarily come to the other parts of the country is going to places like nigeria, asia, europe, you name it, and that's unusual and it has to do with a shortage of american flag vessels. dagen: i'm surprised politicians aren't talking about that. but instead they are trying to deal with the tax increases and spending cuts. if they don't get a deal done on that, will we see any impact in the crude and also the gasoline markets? >> oh, absolutely. if the fiscal cliff, if we go off of it, i think we will see crude oil prices come down substantially. my thought is though if we don't do that, if we have a short-term fix, that you will see a lot of hot money come back into the market and park itself in commodities and oil is always a favorite. so if you're rooting for the fiscal cliff, you might be rooting f
thought, a lot could hinge on how asia trades and europe trading after that. but with much of the western arms in particular europe, buying is going to get light approaching christmas holiday, a lot of people are heading out. which is why republicans have said, you know we'll regroup, gather our marbles, and see you next wednesday. not good. more after this. neil: you are looking at the usa capitol right now. we have to go through ma maching a right now, see who this hurts more. if republicans could not pass a measure that would raise taxes on only millionaires, what would it take? republicans say it would take a pound of flesh in return. cuts, and substantial cuts. on the part of democrats on spending. they do that, we might be able to rebuild this. but time is awasting, former federal reserve governor, uncertainty kills the economy in the meantime. how bad do you think that impact gets longer this drags on? >> just think about people who might want to invest firms, entrepreneurs, when they see these antics in washington, they just say no. they don't have the confidence to be able to say
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things worse. europe is doing it, southern europe. it keeps raising. the economy contracts even more. about to go in recession. japan raising taxes. why in the world we would apply that poison to ourselves. lori: that is the ultimatum from the white house, as you know. because of the president's reelection they have the leverage. so are the republicans going to have any choice but to cave especially on the issue of raising taxes for higher-income americans? >> well, there are small business owners. 63 percent, and people who create capitol, invest capital. we have seen in europe and france especially, that kind of thing does not work. he does not have a mandate to hurt the economy which is the way the republicans should phrase this thing. why harm the economy now. lori: edges of the economy fall off the cliff to iraq or raising the tax on the wealthy. >> with the republicans should do, making the point they're raising taxes is a bad thing to do, let's postpone this bank. better to do that than to give poison to the patient now. our economy is starting to slow again. give people pause
accomplished a lot more than we think or know in the press. i think what's happening now is as we saw in europe last year, the most dangerous thing for the markets is when politicians start communicating through the press. and investors watchings right now are hope, they're getting whip sawed left and white. but i think behind the scened they've accomplished a lot more because the plans are miles apart. behind the scenes, the inside game, they're actually a lot closer. david: so was tim geithner yesterday with his real,tworks hard-core plan -- the one issued on thursday night which essentially doubled the amount of tax increases from the private sector than they had talked about before -- is that just a subterfuge? the real stuff is very different in. >> they're all trying, david, to appease the base, right? they're really their collective caucuses. if you look at the republicans, i don't think the gop caucus, all the congressmen and senators in the house and senate, they won't really believe that boehner has got them a deal until around december 20th. in other words, this is all just posturing
't chuck out a guy and hope that this doesn't come back to bite you. stuart: and europe remains ubergreen-- and sorry to use the words-- and ubergreen. yes, we've cut carbon emissions, but shipped more to china and india than the u.s. has. remember, whereas we've paid a lot of money to cut our carbon emixes the u.s. is cutting more by using fracked gas cut more than europe and-- >> environmentalists don't want fracking, the water and the-- >> there are problems with fracked gas, but amaze lig green option for the next ten years and that's one thing that europe doesn't get. and china and india do. stuart: move to america and fracking and-- >> thank you very much indeed, sir. new at 10, listen to this, united states the land of opportunity, oh, yes, for some chinese tourists they're take full advantage of the hospitality. a so-called maternity hotel where chinese mothers are paying to stay and have their babies, instant citizens. good story and it's new at 10. also, time is money, as you well know. so, here in 30 seconds is what else we're watching for you. the tax the rich crowd has gone t
it self-- they're doing themselves a disservice and if you look at the structure in europe where mcdonald's is very large, le mcdonald's hamburger is a dollar and a half more so that's really added labor costs. >> brenda: gary b, we're the not just talking about fast food, we've seen it at wal-mart, at airports, at the shipping ports and they're flexing their muscles. >> absolutely, and they have the backing of the current administration, and i don't dismiss what jonas says that unions are going to these quote, unquote, highly skilled. i member, i worked in a cardboard box factory, i had to join the teamsters and i worked as a supermarket cashier, i had to join the retail clerks union. so could it get to fast food? absolutely. you're right, brenda, it can because they're flexing their muscle and have the backing of the current political environment. >> brenda: larry. >> brenda, the younes need to reinvent themselves. if they need to get into my skilled jobs and earn higher wages and that's the key. >> you're right and the idea of organizing the lowest end of the structure here is, a
. that was growth of the growth off the growth. melissa: right. >> the lesson to be learned from europe isn't to be careful on cutting. it is to be careful on hike being, on hiking taxes. the beast is the government, in my opinion here. the beast is the government. you don't reward the beast by giving it more food, more dollars. that's what i near is going on here. melissa: yeah. lori: the president's desire to get rid of the debt ceiling limit at all, what kind of ramifications, what could happen? are we looking at another debt downgrade? a second downgrade could be really, really -- >> here is what i agree with him. this charade we go through every few months on the debt limit. republican presidents, democratic presidents, mark zandi from moody's it does damage our credibility. i agree to something like that. i didn't like fiat saying i will handle the debt thing. that would be like letting me run loose in a best buy electronics store. not a good idea. i understand where he is coming from. we do have a find a way we can, you know, not hold our entire government hostage to these debt ceili
the market at a time where demand in europe right now is relatively weak. we're seeing that supply cushion. the other thing is the market has been pricing in a lot of worst-case scenarios. obviously doesn't seem to be getting a lot worse than what is happening but definitely it has been priced in to a certain extent, phil flynn, always knowledgeable. price futures group. >> thank you. lori: 'tis the season. the little town of rudolph, ohio, trying to save christmas. melissa: striking workers in california may turn into thh grinch that stole it. the port of long beach executive director j christopher lytle will join us how this could impact your holidays. ♪ . >> i'm liz macdonald with your fox business brief. stocks are swinging between gains and losses today as investors continue to focus their attention on washington, d.c. and the fiscal cliff negotiations. u.s. banks posting their best quarterly performance in six years. according to the fdic, banks posted a combined profit of more than 37 1/2 billion dollars during the third quarter. that is the 6.6% increase from the same time last y
numbering your money back from europe being 30% you might make it 10%. a lot of money would come back to the u.s. and it would be good for the economy. dave: don't mean to pouu water and your idea because i agree with you it would be a great idea to have a tax holiday we have it ministrations people want from the chief economic adviser of the president on down with the administration and they say no way they are going to do this. would give the any optimism it might be done? >> people need revenue. this is positive for revenue. the money sits over cease and the u.s. treasury gets none of it. if you declare this tax holiday the money produces revenue in nd the u.s.. the change of administration at some point. dave: are you hearing anything about this? we ask the administration specifically about this, they say we won't let it happen. >> that is what we heard. they are not going to let it happen but it would be great if they did because of what has already been pointed out. we need to spur this economy and of the fiscal cliff developed and small-businesses our hits we have to have growt
to southern europe so we are quite well-placed. mainly in northern europe, which has been somewhat less effective, so we are somewhat stable there. good growth in asia-pacific and latin america and frankly the united states as well. liz: the competitor, cisco coming in, they want into the optical switch business ramping up, how would you stay ahead of them? >> they're very specialist player. we're not trying to be all things to all people. as such we have a lot of leading technology in this space and already won a lot of the major deals ready to roll out. tracy: are you hiring now going forward? here in the u.s.? speaker yes, we're actually doing some hiring in the united states. liz: good to see you, have a happy holiday. >> thank you, you two. liz: 46% over the past year. gary smith saying they have a good year ahead. the fed are going after a star in the hedge fund world through employee who left the company two years ago going so hard to the point they want a former employee to flip and cooperate with the investigation. charlie gasparino has the latest on the screws content to be ti
minister resignation soon and the impact on europe's debt crisis. crude and in the day down $0.37 $85.56 per barrel. gasoline has come down $0.10 over the past few weeks. korn falling to a three-week low so far i'm growing demand overseas for supplies from the u.s. soybeans also dropping on slowing demand. david: peter kenny, to see his communicates, some of the best material on what is happening in the market around the world. we have him here live. and peter barnes with the latest developments on the fiscal cliff negotiations, but let's art in chicago with john, two very interesting situations continuing, drama over the fiscal cliff in d.c. and also this week we have the fed meeting. which is more important to the market? >> eventually it will be the fiscal cliff that is more important to the market, but make no doubt about it, the fed meeting with the announcement wednesday morning and wednesday afternoon is going to continue to support risk assets. you were talking about how the dollar is melting up for the fourth consecutive day. the federal reserve will make a very active effort
again, very tiny amounts of electricity, and in europe, we're seeing the green guru, james lovelock calls it the greatest folly on europe, relying on wind power to help base llad of electricity. denmark which people holds model, has not shut a single coal based plant or carbon based plant since they went all wind. sandra: easy to get emotional. so let's put facts. energy department under current administration spent $1.69 billion in loan guaranties for wind projects. >> yes. sandra: so far no offshore wind pardon me is operating today in american waters but yet we are now announcing tens of millions of more dollars being spent to do so. >> yeah. looks like first ones might go online in new jersey in 2013 or 2014. so it is still far away. even once you get it though, you still have all the other environmental issues from bird impacts, unsightlyness of it. it is intermittent power. all the money going into it, at the same time, we're shutting down coal and now the obama administration has announced its intent to go after natural gas tracking and shale oil -- fracking and shale oil bec
. they could start making the point europe and japan has been doing this a couple of years now, massively raising taxes. japan is now in official recession. southern europe is contracting. france and germany about to go into recession. what can't you guys learn? higher taxes don't work. melissa: yeah. but seems lying the public at large has not bought that argument. mitt romney tried to make that argument. a lot of people tried to make the argument. it hasn't worked. >> you emphasize what is the best way to get the economy moving again. means to end. instead of fighting on democrat's ground, establish your own ground. taxes does notn growth. greater spending does not mean growth. mammoth regulations taking away control from patients does not lead to growth. fight on your own turf instead of democrats. melissa: you're a master of negotiation. you know so much about this. how would you reset the negotiations? >> toss out a few grenades. passing in the house entitlement reforms can't take any benefits from existing beneficiaries. love to see the senate reject that one. how about another bill
could hinge on how asia trades and europe trading after that. but with much of the western arms in particular europe, buying is going to get light approaching christmas holiday, a lot of people are heading out. which is why republicans have said, you know we'll regro, gather our marbles, and see you next wednesday. not good. more after this. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including
and grow when the entitlement culture become permanent like europe. of the last one. you are a young man surrounded by people the same age. when you come out and talk like you are talking now what is the reaction? >> a lot of the marston's. they never heard it before especially from teachers across the country. they never heard the tenets of capitalism in our schools and that is what our group turningpoint usa is doing. i go to lecture halls and high school band is about talking about the morality of capitalism versus the morality of government dependency and i truly believe young people want to be free. young people want to make their decisions and because of that there is hope. stuart: if you ever come in your queue set on the set with us because we like what you have to say. good stuff indeed. thank you. you want to add anything to that? you are the ceo when you hired these youngsters. >> i agree. stuart: do you seeethat entitlement mentality in the work force, the young work force that is coming in? >> i see and that mentality, i don't agree with the president on his position on enti
new sources of revenue. and cutting spending as well. >> very interesting. europe is deep, deep in a financial crisis and ms. lagarde, who heals from tax the rich, 75% france is lecturing america, very interesting. >> meanwhile, european markets are down and because the italian prime minister mario monti m a surprise. is going to resign. and silvio berlusconi wants to replace him. europe is appalled. and people blaming the recession for not having more children. 64 births for one thousand women of child bearing age. half of the peak of the baby boom in the 1950's. our next guest has six children, counts them. and what's that-- >> and naham segal. that works. >> have i got that word? >> and light tte candles. >> if you light them i will come. >> you have six children. >> as do you. >> leave me out of this. >> and others people say they can't afford it you're saying it doesn't matter if you can afford them or not. >> if the price tag of having a child scares you the most, you haven't done the right gut test. stuart: so, go ahead and have the children whether you can afford them or
, the bad news with merck on the cholesterol drug already approved in europe did not approval america. they spend a lot of money to come up with nothing in this country. for these companies to go out, getting some penetration in the marketplace, one of these rumors that may be viable. this is the $20 stock back in june so there's a lot of room to the upside. we take half on these ford of things especially if you make 14% to wait three four days and take it, not all that bad a cat and a month's run. dennis: is that flighty? a good company with good prospects and a takeover possibility why shouldn't i let my -- not take half of it? charles: it is called death of coin. how often the make 4% in three days? there are other competitors out there. doesn't have to be acquired. the public perception won't be as good. there are enough and knowns to register a little bit. cheryl: thank you. dennis: 15 past the hour, stocks every 15 minutes. team coverage, jeff flock in the trading pits of the cme, all the bad weather in the midwest, first nicole petallides on the stock exchange, the dow down. ni
: they wait until after the new year. are we still the best of the bunch question that europe is still a mess. how is china doing? >> we are actually doing the best. just look at china. the chinese economy is actually not doing that well. there are a lot of complex. the new party just took over the control. there are a lot of things to figure out. the u.s. is in the best condition right now. we have to get past this fiscal cliff and move on. connell: we probably would be talking a lot more about china and the transition of power and how president obama is supposed to do without. when you say there are economy is not doing that great, does that mean it is in jeopardy of a tough all, or it will hang in there? >> i think it will hang in there. china, i think, will grow. reasonably, i have seen some analysts come out and be pretty bullish. their economy, the outlook is willing not that bright. although, they probably will not fall hard. china is sort of setting their status quo. i think the u.s., again, back to the u.s., they have to get their act together. connell: a few days after the end of th
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